Guy Loses It On His Sister Who Told Him It’s ‘Perverted’ To Hug His Son

All families have different ways of expressing their love, and it's important to be respectful of that...as long as no one is getting hurt, that is. But, what do you do when a family member—who is living with you for free—has the nerve to tell you that they think your relationship with your kid is inappropriate? What would you do?

Someone on Reddit had the same issue and got upset, but he wasn't sure if he handled it properly.

He Was Trying To Be A Good Person

Reddit Post: I'm a 32-year-old single dad with a 16-year-old. We don’t have a good relationship with my family because they’re upset that I decided to take responsibility for my son. I haven’t talked to them in years. However, I’ve been talking to my sister occasionally. She’s 42 and has a 15-year-old daughter. A few weeks ago, she told me that she was really struggling financially and couldn’t pay rent. I told her she could stay with me for a bit until she got back on her feet.
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Opening up your home to someone you're estranged from and maybe don't have the greatest relationship with is a really nice thing to do. He obviously wanted to see the best in them.

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It Wasn't Going As Planned

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Reddit Post: So they moved in with us two weeks ago. She met my son for the first time since he was five. Her daughter hasn't met him before. Her daughter went straight to where I told her her bedroom would be and didn’t come out for dinner. She’s been acting like that ever since; I don’t know if it’s normal because my sister isn’t paying any attention to her. My sister has also been acting snobby, and I’ve been ignoring it, thinking it’d go away.
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His sister wasn't being the best guest and was giving her brother a really hard time about how they lived their lives without noticing that her own daughter is estranged from her.

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She Had A Lot Of Opinions

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It seemed that she had a lot of opinions about his life and how he raised his son, and while getting family's input can be important, we don't want it if we don't ask for it.

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Then She Crossed A Line

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Reddit Post: I asked her what she was asking, and she straight up told me that it seemed creepy and perverted to have physical contact with my son. I had it up to my neck at that point, and I just snapped. I told her that just because her daughter has a bad relationship with her and refuses to talk to her doesn't mean that it’s not normal to have a close relationship with their child. She’s actually sick and delusional for even thinking about something like that. She got offended, of course, and went upstairs to her room.
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She told her brother that she thought it was gross that his son was openly affectionate with him. Obviously, that's insane, and he got really upset about the situation, as any of us would.

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She Didn't Say Sorry, And Neither Did He

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Reddit Post: We briefly argued. After a few hours, she basically said that
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They left it on not-so-great terms, she didn't apologize and he, rightfully, didn't either. But he posted on Reddit asking if he was being too harsh and if he didn't handle it well.

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Reddit Was Pretty Behind Him

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Reddit Post: Ah - it sounds like your sister is a good-old-fashioned homophobe!You would only be an A if you forced your son to continue living with someone so judgmental.
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Someone pointed out that it could be some deeply ingrained issues that extend outside the family that are causing her to react that way, and she needs to grow up and live in the real world.

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Other People Shared Stories From Their Life

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Reddit Post: I'm 27, and whenever I'm visiting my parents, we always hug and kiss and snuggle on the couch. It's always been this way and is super normal.
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Hugging your parents and being affectionate with them isn't a weird thing to do. Everyone shows their love differently, and if this guy's son likes to give him a hug, what's wrong with that?

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Showing Love In The Family Matters

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Reddit Post: Even when I was an adult, my father would put his hands on my cheeks, look me in the eye, say,
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There were a lot of people who were pointing out that life goes by quickly, and sadly there will come a time when those hugs won't be there the same way they used to be.

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Others Were Worried For The Niece

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Reddit post: I really feel for your niece in all of this. I hope she's ok. You've already done enough for her but I really hope your son and you can develop a good relationship with her.
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Lots of people pointed out that they were concerned for the little girl and said it was no wonder she liked to stay hidden away in her room like a hermit.

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She Meddled Too Far

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Reddit Post: Your relationship with your kid is perfect. As a male who used to work with children, being shamed for kids giving affection to a male (hugging) sucks because some of the highlights of my day was knowing that these kids trusted me and cared about me enough to want to hug me. This is your kid and you keep loving him as long as you possibly can.
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It's a wonderful thing to have a loving and trusting relationship with your kids, and this woman clearly needs some lessons in that.

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What do you think? Do you think that he overreacted?

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This Situation Is A Small Part Of A Bigger Problem

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Reddit Post: So I'm curious about appropriate ways for fathers to show they love their sons versus how to how to show it to daughters. With a daughter, I feel it would be easy. It’s normal to hug them, give them kisses, tell them I love them. But how would I do that with a son? I had a father who was emotionally distant with me and I’d feel inclined to do that with a son of mine (I turned out fine), but I’ve been told that that’s bad parenting. But I’d be concerned that touching him like I’d touch a daughter (or even much at all), and telling him how I love him would be emasculating to both of us.
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There was another father on Reddit who was asking if it was OK to be affectionate with this son. The question seems ridiculous at first, but it really isn't. A lot of people were sharing that they had emotionally distant fathers.

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He Went On To Say He Didn't Have An Emotional Upbringing

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Reddit Post: See, my dad never did any of that with me, or even really wanted to spend time with me, unless my mom pressured him to throw the ball with me periodically in the backyard, and he complained about it the whole time. When I was 13 I was at a friend's birthday party and saw his dad hug him. I thought it was weird. So I figure me doing all that with my own son would just come off as awkward and uncomfortable.
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The person who originally posted the question went on to say that they didn't have an overly emotional relationship with their father and even found it weird to see other kids his age giving their dad hugs.

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There A Lot Of Men Who Responded

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Reddit Post: Kisses, hugs, and multiple I love you's. Masculinity has nothing to do with how much you were hugged as a child. Show the kid you love him for Pete's sake... The world is harsh enough, don't make him wonder if his dad cares about him.
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It seemed that most of the men who were responding to this person's questions about how to show affection to their son were encouraging them to be as emotionally vulnerable as possible.

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Kids Want Attention

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Reddit Post: t's not. Stop worrying about how it’s perceived or the what if’s. If your dad had done it from the beginning it probably wouldn’t be weird to you. People crave love and your son will be all better for it, don’t hold back and show the kid you love him, man.
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The dads in the comments were saying that it is only weird because he doesn't know any better, and if his dad had been more open with him from the start, the thought of being emotional with his kids wouldn't be weird.

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Reddit Post: I had a distant father as well. Now as a dad I am determined to break that cycle. I hug my Son multiple times a day and tell him how much I love him and how proud of him I am. He is only 5 now, but I can already tell that our bond will be much greater than I had with my old man. I wouldn't hold back. Especially when they are about 3 when they really start looking to you for approval, or even just a reaction, after doing something that may be insignificant.
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Sometimes we seem to get stuck in this thought pattern of "I turned out fine, why do things differently?" And that's fair to a point, but ask yourself: wouldn't you have preferred to have a more open relationship with your dad, or even both of your parents?

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We Don't Have Unlimited Opportunities

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Reddit Post: My dad wasn't overly affectionate, but he gave me a hug at least once a week or so in my teens and early 20s. Always when it was just us, never in front of my friends or anything. He'd usually throw in a
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There were some people in the comments who were quick to point out that time goes by quickly, and that before they know it, there might not be the time to give each other hugs.

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It's OK To Show Your Son Affection

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Reddit Post: HUG YOUR SON. Give him kisses. Hold him, pick him up, carry him, tickle him, rough house with him, let him fall asleep on you. Tell him you love him. Tell him he's your little boy and you're his daddy. It makes me a little sad that a father has to be told that this is not only OK but good. Take it from a father who will only be able to hug his son on holidays when he goes to college this fall. This does not last forever. Take advantage of it while you can.
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It's alright to be affectionate with your kids. In fact, it should be encouraged! There has been a lot of research to suggest that kids who are more affectionate with their families become more accomplished adults.

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They Won't Be Kids Forever

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Reddit Post: I think it depends on the kid's age. Kisses, hugs, and I love you's are all fine. Typically a boy will push away at a certain age and the kisses will be fewer. Hugs may be less but never stop saying I love you. Be sure to tell him when you are proud of him.
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Yes, kids are going to eventually end up in that stage where they act like they would sooner die than be seen with you, but that stage is only temporary. As we get older, we go back to wanting those close relationships with our family.

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Being Affectionate Doesn't Mean A Lack Of Discipline

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Reddit Post: Affection and attention are how I raise my son. That doesn't mean I don’t discipline him or don’t teach him, just that if I ever correct him he will always know it comes from a place of love.I don’t hesitate to correct my son. But I also don’t hesitate to hug, kiss or celebrate his successes. It’s easy now, he’s a toddler and toddlers crave that affection. I’m sure it will be more difficult later as he aged out of the group and it’s weird that his dad doesn’t hesitate to kiss him on the cheek or head.
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Being affectionate with your kid doesn't mean that you're letting them get away with whatever they want to get away with. It just means that they will grow up knowing they can come to you.

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We Have To Let Go Of This Toxic Masculinity

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Reddit Post: I was fortunate that my own dad chose to break that cycle. He came from a household that didn't have that affection and had a bit of a rough upbringing at times. My son is now 4 months and I look forward to giving him hugs and telling him I love him. In regards to masculinity, I would agree with other posts that the construct is changing/becoming outdated, but I would say I would be described as a
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Not allowing fathers to feel comfortable being open and affectionate with their sons is just another way that toxic masculinity is still making life difficult in ways it doesn't have to be. We are in control of changing the narrative, so why don't we?

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Dad Asks If He's Wrong For Banning Stepson After He Destroyed His Daughter's Belongings

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A Redditor who goes by the username throw4privacy5 posted on the popular r/AmITheA**hole subreddit.

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The question has been viewed by thousands of people who upvoted the post and commented, eager to chime in on the situation.

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He Is Unsure Whether He Is In The Wrong For Banning His Stepson From The Home

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The post asks: "AITA for refusing to let my stepson return home without punishment after he ruined my daughter's book collection?"

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The title of the post indicates there's definitely more to the story, which the father goes on to explain.

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His Daughter, Susan, Is 12 Years Old And Loves To Read

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He explains that his biological daughter, a 12-year-old named Susan, loves to read and collect "old children's books." He went on to reveal that she had "problems with reading and learning" while growing up, and the books are a great way to keep improving her skills.

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Susan also reads to her 2-year-old sister every night before bed to help her practice.

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He Also Has A 16-Year-Old Stepson Named Levi

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In addition to Susan, the father says he has a 16-year-old stepson named Levi. He admits that Levi can be a "hothead sometimes" and that they don't necessarily have a great "son-dad relationship" but that they do have mutual respect.

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He adds that Levi can "act quite mean and selfish towards me and his sisters," giving the example of how Levi would throw away their belongings over small arguments and "teases Susan for spending a lot of time reading" calling her names like "grandma."

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Levi's Behavior Is Problematic And When He Is Facing Punishment He Flees To His Father's House

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The Redditor has spoken to his wife about Levi's behavior and they "agreed on punishments," but every time there are consequences to face, Levi would flee to his dad's place to avoid getting in trouble.

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He also says the boy's father gets angry "for wanting to discuss a suitable punishment." "Then Levi comes home days later expecting me to let go of what he did every time, it's frustrating," he says.

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Levi Took Susan's Entire Book Collection And Dumped It In The Pool After She Refused To Lend Her Camera

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The incident in question happened one day when the father received a call from his daughter. Susan told her dad that Levi had "taken her entire book collection and threw them in the pool after she refused to lend him and his friends her camera for his trip."

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He said that his wife had helped fish out the books but that "they were wet and some were torn." To make matters worse, some of the books were limited edition or vintage. He added that the books had "meant a lot to Susan as a part of her life."

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Levi Went To His Dad's House After He Destroyed The Books To Avoid The Consequences

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Susan's father was understandably furious. He said he "came home to have a conversation" with his wife to determine an appropriate punishment. But Levi had already packed his bag and headed to his father's.

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He continued: "I asked my wife how could she let him basically run after doing this and she said he called his dad and he came to pick him up after Susan said that I was coming home to deal with the problem."

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Levi's Father Was Against Punishing Him And Blamed His Mom And Stepdad For His Outbursts

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The story continues that the father went to Levi's dad's house where he was staying. He said: "I told him how Levi was hiding from consequences," but unfortunately, his dad did not agree.

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Levi's father blamed the stepfather and Levi's mother for his son's outbursts. "He even said he'd get CPS involved if I ever try to punish him because I'm not his dad, I have no right."

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Levi Wanted A Promise In Writing That He Would Not Be Punished If He Returned Home

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Levi's father also justified his son's actions by saying it "was a reaction to [Susan] being mean to him."

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After the confrontation, Levi's father told his stepfather to leave. He also made it clear that Levi would not be returning to his mother's home until his stepfather promised in writing that he would not be punished. Seems a little melodramatic for someone who was down to drown children's literature.

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The Stepfather Refused And Agreed That Levi Shouldn't Come Home, Which Made His Bio Father More Angry

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Levi's stepfather agreed that Levi shouldn't come home until he's willing to face the consequences.

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But the teen's bio father argued that "it's his mom's house too" and called his ex-wife to ask her to drop it. She "asked to let this go and we'll figure out some way to resolve it but I don't think it's fair for Susan to have her books ruined and Levi getting away with it."

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The Entire Family Wants The Dad To Drop It But He Says That Will Only Make The Future Worse

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The father said that while his family is encouraging him to let it go, he believes that "it will only encourage Levi to do worse if I don't deal with it now."

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The man said that it had been two weeks since the incident but that his in-laws were even saying that he was wrong for "banning Levi from coming home," also telling him to back down and move forward.

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The Stepfather Has Been Repeatedly Talked Out Of Punishing Levi

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In an "EDIT" update to the post, the father adds that Levi's bio dad has "caused issues" in the past when the stepfather would take Levi's electronics (that his dad bought) as punishment.

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He said he is constantly "talked out" of punishing the teen "every time he does something unacceptable" to his stepdad or sisters. He even admits that he has "arranged for family therapy but Levi's dad refused to let him go."

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Levi Is Willing To Apologize—The Family Thinks That's Enough

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In a final update, the father says: "I'd like to mention that my in-laws said that Levi is willing to apologize to Susan and so this should be enough to get this over with."

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But the apology alone is not enough for this father and he insists he "kept saying no, and for that, I'm being considered at fault." The Reddit community took in the info and decided to rate him not the a**hole in the situation.

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The top comment was left by RedditUser123234 who said: "NTA. If your wife refuses to punish her son, then you need to divorce her, or at the very least move into a separate house with Susan and your youngest daughter until Levi is out of the house for good. If your stepson continues to get away with hurting Susan with no consequence, Susan is going to suffer greatly. This is a hill to die on."

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The commenter added an afterthought to say that the man should certainly try to convince his wife to see his side, but if she continues to side with her ex-husband, it's going to be harmful to the marriage and family.

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You Don't Teach Respect By Acting Disrespectfully

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While some people suggested selling off Levi's belongings to pay for replacement books, another pointed out that "you don't teach respect by acting disrespectfully."

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Their suggestion was to deal with the situation at its root: the boy's mother.

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His Behavior Toward The Women In His Life Could Become A Pattern

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Another user pointed out that Levi's behavior toward his younger stepsister could be an indication of how he may treat women in his life in the future.

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They said that the boy's biological parents are reaffirming that his behavior is acceptable by not punishing him. What do you think?